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CapeXit? Separatists bid to split South Africa

lexity said:
What a thug.

79% of the DA's own supporters, in the WC, want a referendum.

The most democratic tool in the chest.

But no, the DA leadership consider themselves paternalistic benefactors who have no need for consulting their unwashed voters, who have been threatened with ANC rule in the WC should they vote for smaller parties.
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Rubbish.
He said they have proposed the legal framework for a referendum, there is no law currently that allows for this to happen.
You are blissfully uniformed.
 
EADC said:
The veil slips every now and then.

But don't be fooled it is the basis of it.
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It's certainly possible.

Let's be honest though. If the Western Cape were allowed to choose a leader for the Western Cape it would not be an ANC candidate. That leader would also be unlikely to be black. More likely white or coloured. This wouldn't be a race thing, just a demographics thing.

That obvious demographic difference in the Western Cape is why I'd like to see how people would vote in a succession referendum.
 
surface said:
They got an Indian PM where you are moving to. Probably some Abdul will take over by the time you land. Don't say I didn't warn you. Again and again.
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Yeah I wouldn't move to the UK now or ever after visiting it a few times.

The gloomy weather, influx of refugees who get off the hook for violent crimes and child rape, the cost of living and state of life issues, their goverments and mayors policies...it just goes on and on. The UK now is not the UK of the past in it's glory days.
 
Aghori said:
Yeah I wouldn't move to the UK now or ever after visiting it a few times.

The gloomy weather, influx of refugees who get off the hook for violent crimes and child rape, the cost of living and state of life issues, their goverments and mayors policies...it just goes on and on. The UK now is not the UK of the past in it's glory days.
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I mean... other than the gloomy weather thing you've pretty much just described SA.
 
Aghori said:
"We have to free ourselves from this black government," a party activist told AFP as he canvassed at a crossroad, before correcting himself and describing the ANC government as simply "corrupt".

Sounds pretty racist to me. He only corrected himself because he was going to be on media. The real problem is that there are corrupt blacks, indians, whites and coloureds who ALL support ANC. That is the issue here.
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Playing devil's advocate ...

this black government
vs
a black government

BEE is everything expect white?

:p
 
porchrat said:
It's certainly possible.

Let's be honest though. If the Western Cape were allowed to choose a leader for the Western Cape it would not be an ANC candidate. That leader would also be unlikely to be black. More likely white or coloured. This wouldn't be a race thing, just a demographics thing.

That obvious demographic difference in the Western Cape is why I'd like to see how people would vote in a succession referendum.
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I mean sure could be anyone.

Point is a lot of those punting the split is about race no matter how they try hide it.
 
The only way any part of South Africa will secede is through a bloody civil war, and nobody wants that, and quite frankly nobody has the stomach for it.
 
Nerfherder said:
Rubbish.
He said they have proposed the legal framework for a referendum, there is no law currently that allows for this to happen.
You are blissfully uniformed.
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That's just a formality-turned-foothold for those who only do democracy when the result is in their favor.

WC premier said he doesn't think the WC should have a referendum.

I mean the absolute hubris if this guy, who is supposed to be representing the people of the WC.

After 4 years of polling showing increasing support. And a letter signed by 33k residents, and 2 seats in local government (for probably the smallest of the CI groups i.e. the only CI political party, at the time).

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lexity said:
Correct.

And at each level you accept responsibility for the cost of mistakes/oversight/poor judgement.

This freedom to fail will form a check on frivolous, have-go independence movements i.e. entitlement-minded brats such as those that threatened to leave the US should Trump be elected. I don't think many of them followed through. Why not? Because a) they had to pay for their relocation themselves and they realised b) Trump was not as dangerous to their masters i.e. the deep state, as they first feared.
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LOL...

Another week, more delusions.

Must be great being anti-SA hey, and create your own little apartheid in your head.
 
lexity said:
That's just a formality-turned-foothold for those who only do democracy when the result is in their favor.

WC premier said he doesn't think the WC should have a referendum.

I mean the absolute hubris if this guy, who is supposed to be representing the people of the WC.

After 4 years of polling showing increasing support. And a letter signed by 33k residents, and 2 seats in local government (for probably the smallest of the CI groups i.e. the only CI political party, at the time).

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a whole 33k residents in a province of 7.5m

Wow, so much of support you have there little one.
 
ToxicBunny said:
a whole 33k residents in a province of 7.5m

Wow, so much of support you have there little one.
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If that DA graph is to be believed, it's more than that.

1.617 million DA WC voters in 2021.

61% is ~970 thousand.
 
AdrianH said:
@lexity disagrees with this, he believes it will happen with "magic" and "hope".
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It will be all peaceful and light, and violence will only be perpetrated by those who don't want it to happen because they're ugly and nasty. So bad that they should go sit in the naughty corner.
 
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