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CapeXit? Separatists bid to split South Africa

lexity said:
I very much doubt the CIP agreed to the terms, then.

What proof do you have they did?
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If they want to take part in the election those are the terms. They didn't meet the terms. Too bad.

If they wanted to renegotiate and were unhappy about it that should have been done a long looooooooooong time ago. Again demonstrating that they're plain disorganised.
 
porchrat said:
If they want to take part in the election those are the terms. They didn't meet the terms. Too bad.

If they wanted to renegotiate and were unhappy about it that should have been done a long looooooooooong time ago. Again demonstrating that they're plain disorganised.
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Suddenly it's a one-way contract...

:giggle:
 
lexity said:
Suddenly it's a one-way contract...

:giggle:
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No. If you don't wish to participate then that's fine. The conditions for participation have been provided. It's open to pretty much anybody. You either meet the conditions or you don't. You can either choose to participate or not. One could also have objected to these systems many moons ago should one have disagreed. None of that was done.

Everyone else seems to have met the conditions quite easily. It's just these yahoos that struggled.

You're the one that gets hard over contracts. Why should the IEC now be required to come back to the table and change conditions just because these morons alone were incapable of doing what was required? Why should one party go through extra effort because of the incompetence of the other? Too bad.
 
vigras rojara said:
Ok - no, I'm not a commie.

Not sure why you would think I am, just because I think the CI movement is incompetent.
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Oh so you're really only just being critical of their incompetence.

Well it's only possible to be this vocal about it if they failed at achieving something you stand for or feel strongly about. Else you'd be indifferent.

The aim of criticism, after all, is meant to improve. So you're trying to improve them by throwing criticism their way yes?

What a closet secessionist you are, expecting such high standards for individual rights and cleaning up like that. Thank you for your service.

/or you're a commie
 
Polymathic said:
Except that the Cape is mostly Afrikaaners who are ideologically the same as their inland kin and viewed the more racial tolerant of the Brits as a form of British oppression on their boederbond way. The Cape didn't invade the Boer Republics the crown did and mostly through Natal. Sympathizers to the Boer cause in the Cape was a real issue for the Cape.

If anything based on the people openly supporting Cape Independance are mostly the type that want a new Boer republik
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Cape is less Afrikaaners compared to Afrikaans speakers. There is a big difference. Most of the Afrikaans speakers in the Cape is Coloured and not considered Afrikaners. Those you refer to are mostly in Pretoria.

However......most of the Pro-Apartheid people left SA prior to 1994 already. In fear of the ANC Retribution. Well over a million Afrikaaners left then.
 
lexity said:
I just read Jack's version of events and basically he is saying CIP voters are being denied their democratic choice due to a technicality. Words to that effect.

At the time they submitted the required files, the IEC website facility for uploads was not functioning properly, and flying to Joburg or wherever it was was not possible.
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I can't buy that.

lexity said:
For me the clue is the IEC didn't say if there was a problem getting your documents uploaded due a a system or network problem then as long as you can prove the documents were timestamped at the time, they could still be received.
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Sounds like they didn't think deeply enough to go that route, no mention of timestamps that I've seen.

lexity said:
Dunno, to me this court decision Stinks to high heaven.

(ultimately par for the political course though, imo)
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Bobbin said:
Oh so you're really only just being critical of their incompetence.

Well it's only possible to be this vocal about it if they failed at achieving something you stand for or feel strongly about. Else you'd be indifferent.

The aim of criticism, after all, is meant to improve. So you're trying to improve them by throwing criticism their way yes?

What a closet secessionist you are, expecting such high standards for individual rights and cleaning up like that. Thank you for your service.

/or you're a commie
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Blah blah blah.

I believe the concept is flawed. If the CI movement were competent, they may have been able to persuade me otherwise.

Instead, we just witness a bunch of bumbling buffoons with no chance of achieving anything.
 
Clean Green said:
It might be best if the two parties merge. It also improves chances slightly and presents an unified front.

It seems as though this party sucks a bit on the admin side. The other party seemed to have done just fine.
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They can't merge.

The RP stands for the single value this year of getting the DA to accept and act on believed public desire for a referendum, otherwise "siding" with the DA - far from how CIP are trying to approach the subject and not gonna change beforehand as it would crumble the CIAG / RP's clever poker hand.
 
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